Whoops! I got banned again.
Well, I got suspended from a fox group on which I was the top contributor and only found out when I tried to answer someone's fox health problem.
There were photographs in the group and videos of people calling foxes into houses and one man who was a 'hero" getting a fox to come to him and put its paws on his knees. I pointed out that this was something dangerous for the fox and then came all the angry comments.
I politely explained the problems it could cause and ended by saying if people actually loved foxes they needed to treat them as wild animals not pets. However, the group Everything Fox is a one that promotes what is essentially wildlife abuse in amongst its constant jabbering to "FEED THEM!" (apparently fox cubs playing and making vocalisations is them "begging for food").
The last group I was suspended then banned from was Badger Watch UK where I commented on a man who films/photographs badgers while sitting on top of their sett feeding them and allowing 6-7 at a time to scramble over him. The group admins responded by sending childish Gifs and memes then blocked me.
This is wildlife abuse and its just a shame that people on the groups do not speak up when they see what is happening but stay silent otherwise they don't get to see the pretty fox/badger photos. When I see obese foxes I know that there is a generation losing its disease immunity and passing on that lack of immunity to its young.
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Boris the Badger and Friends is a Face Book page that promotes the habituation and hand feeding of badgers in close proximity to the actual badger sett. On the 2nd April 2024 the man posted a video of him sitting amongst a group of 6-7 badgers and hand feeding.
I had previously (twice) been very polite and asked him to stop as he was habituating badgers to humans and the hand feeding is something that really ought to be made illegal.
Sitting near a sett and hand feeding badgers -"only one ever comes close" (c)2024 Boris the Badger
His constant response is that the "badger" only came out shyly to him. This was a lie because all of the badgers in the video he talks about how several were climbing over him. Previous videos showed the same thing. I decided that a much firmer approach to the problem was needed and pointed out that his activities were putting the badgers safety at risk. I also pointed out that using his ISP it was possible to track down his street and from there work out where badgers might be. I pointed out that, legally, he was interfering with a badger sett and that could involve his being prosecuted. I ended by asking him to PLEASE stop what he was doing.
Then I received this notification along with its rather immature added note.
I sent a copy of this notification to all three admins but one blocks any messages so great admin there! There seemed to be no sense in this since I was listed as a "top contributor" on Badger Watch UK -in fact I was the only person actively helping people with badger issues. I assumed there must be an error somewhere.Here is what I sent the only two admins who were contactable:
"I am writing to you as an Admin on Badger Watch UK. It seems that I am accused of "threatening a member" I will make it clear that I did not threaten to do anything other than to report the danger he was putting wildlife -badgers- in and breaking the law at the same time. We need to protect badgers and stop them from being habituated to humans. Sitting on the ground near a badger sett and feeding the badgers in the way he has videoed is also ethically wrong. I deal with badgers killed because they do not see humans as a threat and the member in question may well be a "star" but he is not helping badgers and I am shocked that admins feel pointing this out is threatening. Humans, whoever they are, cannot be encouraged to do this when we urge people to report people around protected badger setts. "
Krister Ardem and admin: "Telling someone you've traced their address via their ISP is definitely threatening"
So I replied and suspect I am going to be kicked off because the attitude was very odd:
"No it was pointing out that it is not hard to use that to track what street he is on and use that to pinpoint where likely locations of badgers are. That is alerting him to how easy the wrong people can find badgers if they want to. I DID NOT state I had tracked his address just that the ISP leads to info that shows his street. That is not a legal definition of a threat but safety warning. The issue here is that this is irresponsible behaviour not good for the badgers. Surely that can be seen? I have alerted Face Book and sent copies of my posts and the video clip I saved and explained that I have been banned for 24 hours because I take an accusation of threatening someone seriously as does FB who pick up these things. If you would sooner have anti wildlife behaviour videos to trying to explain to people how to keep badgers safe then the fight to save badgers is lost."
Krister Ardem "You said you'd traced his street in less than 30 minutes. He's been working with badgers for more than 40 years so why be so attacking and not discuss amicably? Now you're trying to threaten BWUK admins for muting you as a punishment, saying you've disagreed with what is clearly intimidating behaviour. I'm sure Facebook will have a good laugh at your complaint. Before throwing it right into the bin where it belongs."
It was as though I had somehow upset people who are supposed to care for badgers by pointing out that someone was doing something that could harm badgers. I was still trying to help smooth things over though:
"If you go back I have been very polite to him and explained why he should not be doing this. I have tried privately as well and I have worked in wildlife since 1977 so well before his work -whatever that is as I can find no name or published papers. the whole reason I stopped checking on badger setts is because someone tracked me down in a similar way.
"I have actually had a response from FB (note: I received a notification from them about my ban which was why I contacted them) and they were not laughing and I have no idea why you are saying I am threatening BWUK admins?? I get a feeling you just want me to leave the group because this is getting ridiculous with the word threat being thrown everywhere. If ALL the admins agree that a field naturalist with decades of experience is not wanted but social media likes are then ALL admins should agreed to remove me."
In all honesty it was quite simple. I had spoken out against one of their "stars" who got lots of "Likes" for his videos and that, to the admins, was unacceptable and whatever I wrote I was "threatening" anyone and everyone. What I was not expecting was the very immature response to my last message:
So I responded: "That is very immature as a response and you seem to be baiting me for some reason but I stand by what I wrote and the fact that we have to protect badgers"
Sadly, Ardem really was as immature as his responses suggested as he sent this meme next:
I was still trying to be polite but Ardem then blocked me. As did the only other admin on FB. Basically, they knew they were in t5he wrong and supporting an habituator for social media likes and had no way of responding so were turning every and any word into a "threat" In fact, it seems that Ardem was not aware of the social media "You Lose the argument" rule. That last meme was it!
So I waited to see what happened but I had been immediately removed from the group. Boris the Badger and Friends blocked me on all social media -as well as someone else who tried to explain why he should not feed the badgers the way he was.
"only one badger comes near me" (c)2024 Boris the Badger
And to emphasise the point:
"only one badger comes near me" (c)2024 Boris the Badger
This is wrong on so many counts but as with many social media groups covering foxes and other wild animals this is encouraged and "Boris" even gets a much cherished "Rising star" at the top of his FB page. Wrong is wrong and these people know it but want the social media likes and **** the wildlife.
Unfortunately for Badger Watch UK and Boris the Badger and Friends you post publicly then those photographs are available on any search engine (four to be exact as I tried them all to make sure)
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